Hello. I thought I needed to update this thing that I call a blog because it seems I still gets some visitors that are interested in what I have to say.
This is a post that talks about the Oh Naturally Skinny CCK.
Well. No, not ”naturally”.
I think that if any of you guys had any doubts about if whether or not Chocolate Covered Katie had some history with an ED, you should know this. All credit goes to GOMIer Meow, who with her GOMI detective skills, managed to start the investigation.
Here’s her original post, which I cleaned up a bit to make it shorter, that will destroy the heart of all the white knights and recovering anorexic minions:
From 2002 – 2003, which is when she was trying to gain weight, she posted on Vegsource.com forums under the alias of Lilliana. This can be confirmed by the email address she supplies (veggieprincess@msn.com, which is CCK’s) and the IP address. She also mentions living in Japan and Texas multiple times. Here.
CCK was an active poster on the site.
“My doctor told me today that a person cannot recover from anorexia without taking Prozac b/c of something to do with the serotonin levels in the brain of an anorexic. She said that since anorexia is an obsessive compulsive disorder, drugs must be used, along with therapy and trying very hard, to recover from it. I am very wary of taking these mind-altering drugs (I hate putting ANY kind of foreign substance in my body- it’s the control thing). I really believe I can beat this without drugs considering I am not in as bad of shape as many other anorexics b/c I never starved myself (I ate 5 meals every day and took in about 1600 calories according to my nutritionist… but even still, I have anorexia. It’s complicated). The first week after being diagnosed, I even gained six pounds! So, is my doctor right? Do I HAVE to take the scary blue pills? Or can I avoid them if I continue to try REALLY REALLY hard?
(Source)
Thanks!
-Liliana “
So she was diagnosed with anorexia nervosa.
“From: Liliana(12-239-184-39.client.attbi.com)
Subject: Anyone been told that their heart was leaking? (msg)
Date: May 16, 2003 at 4:35 pm PSTI figured this was the best board to ask on b/c it seems off-topic on the veganism board and b/c the cardiologisttold me I have the heart of an anorexic. It’s so weird b/c I have never had an eating disorder and I eat so much (but that’s not the point).”
In denial about it, but she showed physical signs. (NOTE: I did some digging and she admits to Anorexia Nervosa, see below). Search “Liliana anorexia” on the site and you’ll find it. There are also many, many food logs posted by her. I tried to find her on fitday.com, but I can’t.
Off-Topic. I just love Pikachu.
I did some more digging that you might be interested in:
Here is where she ADMITS to an eating disorder (with the proof that Liliana really IS Katie).
Btw, how did you know I was anorexic? I ask b/c someone else just recently confessed that the first time I ate with him and his family, he knew I had an eating disorder (his daughter had had one, so he recognized in me the same eating patterns she had).
Here is where you would want to rip your hair off for believing in all her fucking lies.
I wonder what they’d do if I told them I’d throw up if they made me take medication… I’ve never pruged before, but I would probably consider it if they force fed me the medication. Yeah, they’d probably put me in the hospital, so that plan wouldn’t work.Yeah, I do think that group therapy would be good, but I just KNOW I will start comparing myself to the others and start to feel inadequate b/c I am not the best at being really thin
Oh wait, here. That’s better.
I never thought I had anorexia b/c I do eat- a ton. Usually I have three big meals and three snacks too. But apparently you can eat a lot and still have anorexia. I have most of the physical symptoms (the heart problems, the low blood pressure that changes when I stand, being more than 15% below normal weight, having lost weight, etc.) and most of the mental ones as well- fear of gaining weight, guilt after eating too much, etc. (I didn’t count calories religiously, but if anything, that was the problem b/c I thought I was eating more calories than I actually was). I also cut my food up into small pieces, take an eternity to eat, and drink lots of water… oh and I am a perfectionist and control freak. So when I searched online and on every site, found that I had basically all the symptoms, I had to face reality (I still don’t like the way my cardiologist treated me, though. Even my nutritionist and pediatrician think that she could have treated me with more respect and all).As I said in my other post, I am sorry for lying and saying I didn’t have an ED, but I was lying to myself, too.
Well, You are STILL a friggin liar.
To wrap up this post, I think she should also be diagnosed with Over-linking-and-recycling-old-recipe-to-make-money Disorder and Fake-cutesy-attitude-to-make-money Disorder.
Moral of the story:
Be careful with Internet. It never forgets.
ETA: Seems like someone already did the digging (you can see I haven’t been really reading GOMI these past months…)! There’s also an ”explanation” from CCK. That girl must have been wetting her pants when she saw this.
This is the first time I’ve heard of a ‘heart like an anorexics’ lol.
That said, I remember this coming up on GOMI. My biggest disappointment is that Katie is in a position where she could do so much for awareness and understanding of EDs but instead, she chooses to use it negatively. Denial when it’s blatantly known for sure confirms that it’s something to be ‘ashamed of’ and hidden, and that sets things back years.
I can’t believed I missed this. I saw the date (like late June) when this came up on GOMI, and I think I was just too busy trying to survive off 0.25$/package of Ramen Noodles, working extra shifts and paying my rent.
And no, she is not at all in the position to do anything for understanding of EDs.
I mean, if she did had an ED, then she is just a immoral asshole liar that makes money out of sick people.
If she didn’t had an ED and her explanation on GOMI is true, then she is mentally challenged. ”Pretending”…?
In both case, people will just be disgusted or laugh at EDs.
And as usual, she just tossed the whole thing under the rug. Typical.
Ah noodles, the student survival staple :/ I hope things are better for you now.
You were away from GOMI and WP for a while it seems, and I also find it’s easy to miss whole threads and events on GOMI if you are taken up with something else. But it does mean you get to read the whole thing at once later instead of having to wait for each bit of it to be posted! Instant gratification
We misunderstand – I meant that if she had used it in a good way, she could have done a lot that was positive just by having such a reach of readers. I can understand hiding it when we are teenagers or going through denial – I was hugely ashamed of it when I was younger (still am a lot of the time, although now i know it’s nothing to BE ashamed of). But as an, ahem *cough, ADULT – she’s really done a lot of damage, yes. Ugh.
Do you think she’s a (sorry, hate labels but how else to describe people) narcissist, or even sociopath? Corporate sociopathic way she makes her $$$$$$$$ from her relentless methods. She strikes me as very cold, very ‘get out of my way or I will run you down.’
No, we didn’t misunderstood, I was agreeing but disagreeing in a joking manner, if that makes sense…
Anyway, to answer your Q, I think both, or I don’t know. What I know is that she doesn’t care as much as she claims about her readers. One personal anecdote:
She once asked me to write a blog post. At that time I was 14-15, and one of her minion. I promptly said yes, and spent 3-4h on it. She sent me cutesy e-mails and told me she would publish it on September. Well, she never did. I don’t think it was a coincidence that her popularity increased by that time, and she just decided that my post was not good enough for her to attract readers and make $$ out of it. I still have the e-mails, so sickeningly fakely sweet.
That is really crappy! I would be pissed off too. She could have at least been honest with you and said that it wasn’t what she wanted for whatever reason. At least that’s respectful of you and the time you took in writing it and gives you a chance to ask WHY it wasn’t up to her standards. It’s also rather.. um.. snobby. Nobody writes a blog post as well as Katie does?
To be honest, I find her blog very unprofessional and not well put together so I don’t know how she gets so many minions… except yeah, she totally exploits the “you too can eat all these amazing goodies and be skinny like me.” thing.
Ugh, she is so annoying! I always suspected something, but this newly-discovered evidence just makes me so upset. I’ve always wanted to believe that she’s healthy. Why can’t she just admit to her past? People would keep reading her blog… and she seems healthy enough now so it’s not a huge problem. I just wish she were honest.
Might as well wish to marry Ryan Gosling.
CCK annoys me to no end. Yeah when I was anorexic I thought she was a goddess and her food was a gift from the heavens.
I’ve had real food since then and theres a huge difference. The main difference being real food has mass and CCK’s food doesn’t… her servings are so small its ridiculous. Not to mention that almost everything is absolutely disgusting.
She once made pop-tarts that were the size of the strawberries. And she made tooth-mark on some Fudge or Reese’s bites with a fork. She could have at least found taste-testers that were willing to bite in it.
CCK’s recipes never sounded that good. I don’t think I’ll be using any of them knowing this info. Being a former anorexic (still have an ED, I’m not an idiot and don’t fool myself into thinking I’m “recovered”– my brain is still my brain even if I don’t listen to it), and I used to eat so much terrible-tasting stuff thinking it was “yummy” (those Atkins bars that taste like crayons, for example, are not “dank”, not even if mixed with a watery lite cream-pie-and-old-ass flavored WW yogurt). I don’t have problems with people who have struggled with ED’s posting recipes, as this is no grounds for being “banned for life” from such a thing, so long as they’re honest. Like how hard would it be to say “I now maintain a healthy weight of ____ (if she actually is a healthy weight, there aren’t a lot of pics to confirm/deny this) but I still like to incorporate treats into my diet plan, because chicken and olive oil are great, but so is chocolate.” (for example),
I am starting blog where I do eat some “fit-a-fied” recipes (as a bodybuilder) but I’ve been very open about having issues with food. Most people are supportive of this fact and will actually be very helpful and supportive of my “fitness” lifestyle choice, and this support has gradually made me healthier and healthier in my mindset over time, such as realizing that 90% diet adherence is great but 100% adherence outside of prepping for an actual contest is asinine and no way to live life.
I wish CCK would stop lying and realize that she’s only ruining her credibility by trying to deny things. I wish only the best for her. Time will tell if she wises up.
She has a big fuckin’ head and tiny little stick arms and body…her face is one step away from looking skeletal…I KNEW she had an ED.